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I will admit that it has been a long time since I bothered to set foot in an actual church, let alone needed to. I suppose I only did so today out of curiosity to see what something as willless as the drones would preach on. I was unsurprised to see the focus was on the book of the law, where God is proclaimed to be jealous in one verse and then loving a few verses later.

Tell me. What is your opinion on God? Not merely if you believe in him, but do you consider his existence something to care about? And if I were to give evidence to you that it did, indeed, exist, would that change your opinion at all?

Date: 2010-08-09 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kindlichekaiser.livejournal.com
You pose an interesting question, and to be honest I'm not too sure how to answer.

In my world, I suppose I am the 'God.' And I do believe that I'm real. If, in this world, they worship a god, who am I to say he doesn't exist?

Date: 2010-08-09 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
Ah but does the existence of such a being necessitate the praise of it?

Date: 2010-08-09 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kindlichekaiser.livejournal.com
A god created the world and gave it life. If you owe your life to someone, doesn't that warrant praise?

I wouldn't be very happy if no one even thanked me for using so much power to do such a large feat.

Date: 2010-08-09 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
Mmm. But why did he, or she, or perhaps in your case, you, create? Did you do it solely that those who you gave life to would praise you?

And, what if, a god created the world, but did so unintentionally?

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Date: 2010-08-09 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evers-hacker.livejournal.com
To be honest, I'm, uh, not actually sure. Religion isn't practiced that much anymore where I'm from, so God isn't something I've really thought about before.

But, um, that's not to say I don't think he could exist; I mean, I’ve heard about and spoken to those whose existence would seem unlikely, but they do exist. So if there is evidence of God, either here or anywhere else, I wouldn’t really be that surprised.

Date: 2010-08-09 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
Would you say, then, that religion has run it's natural course in the world you're from?

But would you even care if he were to show he exists? Would it change anything about how you live to have that proof?

Date: 2010-08-09 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evers-hacker.livejournal.com
No, there are still those that do practice religion, it's just, ummm, those who practice it are the ones who have the knowledge of it, I guess.

Hmmm, I would care, but it wouldn't change how I live. In the end, I would ask him tons of questions but I would still continue living as I did before.

Date: 2010-08-09 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
And so religion regresses to as it had been in the beginning and loses sight of its purpose.

Seeing him merely as a fount of information, then. A practical view.

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Apologies for the TL;DR orz

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LOL, it's cool

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Date: 2010-08-09 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolf-faerie.livejournal.com
Do you mean the one who lives in the sky?

Date: 2010-08-09 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
There are many descriptions of him. Ain Soph, The Immovable Mover, El Shaddai, Yahweh, The Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

But I suppose even I have had a fondness for the innocent statement of referring to him as living in the sky.

Date: 2010-08-09 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolf-faerie.livejournal.com
I didn't know he had that many names...

The Christians believe in him, but I don't.

Date: 2010-08-09 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
All beings, great and small, have more then one name.

And why do you not?

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Date: 2010-08-09 07:56 pm (UTC)
encored: (pray you love)
From: [personal profile] encored
If there is a god, he's a dick.

Date: 2010-08-09 08:13 pm (UTC)
encored: (at his head a grass-green turf)
From: [personal profile] encored
Favouritism, needless wrath. You name it, it's happened at some point in the bible.

Date: 2010-08-09 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
And you fault God for that, rather then the men who committed the actions?

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Keywords suddenly ironic.

Date: 2010-08-09 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fractured-white.livejournal.com
What else would you expect of such pathetic beings not even fit of the title of humanity? *Completely ignoring Wilhelm's question since they've probably already talked about this at length.*

Date: 2010-08-10 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
I was hoping to see if there would ever be anything other than a balancing act between fear and love for that which is perceived to be greater than them.

Date: 2010-08-10 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fractured-white.livejournal.com
Such is the nature of those with no power to claim as their own. Beings of greater power, be they god or merely mortals that have reached a higher level, inspire reverence from those beneath them even as the weaker masses fear what may be done with the power they stand no hope of holding for themselves.

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Date: 2010-08-10 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deaths-heritor.livejournal.com
Why do you speak in the singular? Of course the gods exist.

Date: 2010-08-10 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
In my dimension, there is only one. And He has not directly made his presence known to man.

Date: 2010-08-10 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deaths-heritor.livejournal.com
Ah, yes. That type. There are a few of those in my world, as well. The ones who insist on speaking through half-baked oracles and leaving vague texts that might be interpreted in any number of ways. Always a bit fussier to manage.

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Date: 2010-08-10 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repeatsalvation.livejournal.com
I was specifically referring to the Judeo-Christian God.

But any, I suppose.

Date: 2010-08-12 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ahoge-goddess.livejournal.com
Hmm...

Well he exists, if only because he has so many worshippers, and I certainly have no intention of ever meeting him...or it if it is a being beyond gender as some say.

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